Once popular Russian military blogger Vladlen Tatarsky explains to his colleague Sergey Mardan that Ukrainian ethnos is just "an ill Russian, just like a transvestite who was born a male but something happened and he wants to be a female". Tatarsky then predicts that in future Ukrainians will be "cured" from the "spiritual transvestitism" and "schizophrenia", not really noticing that it's not really Ukrainians who are seriously disturbed mentally in this whole dialogue. For the dessert, they both praise forcible removal of any symbols of Ukrainian independence from the occupied territories, including monuments commemorating Holodomor when Stalin's policy caused millions of people to die for the sake of communist collectivisation. As of 2025 however, Tatarsky is dead while Ukraine still stands stronger than before.