Often at the margins of conversation, people with disabilities remind us about our very notions of normalcy and our limited sensibility for differences, simply by advocating for more inclusive and accessible ways of living. Though having disabilities is part of the human condition, the ones affected continue to struggle with self-determination and having agency over their lives in a world that struggles to understand them. What even is normal?

Guests: Bernadette Feuerstein is an Austrian disability rights activist and public official, known for her significant contributions to disability rights. She has been playing an important part in the Austrian disability movement, including her involvement in creating a barrier-free Austrian documentary on the topic. She is also the chairwoman of Selbstbestimmt Leben Österreich (Self-Determined Living Austria).

Walter Mathes is an actor, art therapist, and cartoonist. He is a community worker and theatre trainer and has worked with people with special needs, addictions, and in penitentiary facilities.

Maria Dinold works on the integration of people with and without disabilities into cultural life and to promote social inclusion through artistic activity. Is a deputy chairperson of "Ich Bin O.K." Association. She’s the President of both the Austrian branch and the European Federation of Adapted Physical Activity.

We meet with them at the Alte Schmiede Kunstverein, Vienna.

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Creative team Réka Kinga Papp, editor-in-chief Merve Akyel, art director Szilvia Pintér, producer Salma Shaka, writer-editor Margarita Lechner, writer-editor Priyanka Hutschenreiter, project assistant Zsófia Gabriella Papp, production associate

Management Hermann Riessner managing director Judit Csikós project manager Csilla Nagyné Kardos, office administration

OKTO Crew Senad Hergić producer Leah Hochedlinger video recording Marlena Stolze video recording Clemens Schmiedbauer video recording Richard Brusek sound recording

Postproduction Nóra Ruszkai, lead video editor Milán Golovics, dialog editor Réka Kinga Papp, conversation editor

Art Victor Maria Lima, animation Cornelia Frischauf, theme music

Captions and subtitles Julia Sobota Daniela Univazo Marquina Maria Zaslavsky Farah Ayyash Olena Yermakova Aida Yermekbayeva Marta Ferdebar Maria Belen Soriano Zamora Katalin Szlukovényi Lídia Nádori Ellen Hagström Robin Bucher

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